Author John Robbins, Other Progressives Denounce ‘Thrive’
The Santa Cruz–based author is joined by Deepak Chopra and others in a statement distancing themselves from the film.
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by Eric Johnson on Apr 10, 2012
John Robbins says filmmaker Foster Gamble, a friend of his, is "naive" about the political consequences of his new film 'Thrive.'
Last fall, the acclaimed environmentalist and nutrition guru John Robbins was invited to the home of his friends Foster and Kimberly Carter Gamble, near Santa Cruz, to view the Gambles’ just-completed film, Thrive. Robbins, who makes a brief appearance in the film, says he was “overwhelmed” by what he saw.
“There were parts I liked, but there were other parts that I just detested,” he recalls. “I didn’t want to be rude—we were there with our families—so I just didn't say anything.”
Thrive, which was released online in November and had its theater debut at the Del Mar last month, is an uncanny hodgepodge of pseudo-science, Utopian fantasy and veiled right-wing conspiracy theory. Strangely, it also includes onscreen interviews with a number of bona fide progressives, environmentalists and spiritual leaders.
In addition to Robbins, author of the groundbreaking Diet for a New Americain 1987, the film features conversations with Deepak Chopra, the superstar self-help author; Paul Hawken, the green entrepreneur and environmental economist; Elisabet Sahtouris, the evolutionary biologist and philosopher; Duane Elgin, the futurist and author of Voluntary Simplicity; Vandana Shiva, the physicist and advocate for sustainable agriculture; and former astronaut Edgar Mitchell.
In the months since the film’s release, Robbins says, he has been in communication with all of these folks. He wasn’t surprised to find that many of them agreed with his assessment of the film.
While they might have hoped the film would just disappear, Thrivehas become something of a Web cult phenomenon—by some estimates it’s been seen by more than 1 million people. And now they have decided to speak out.
In a just-released statement, Robbins, Chopra, Hawken, Sahtouris, Elgin, Shiva and Mitchell write that they have “grave disagreements” with some parts of the film.
“We are dismayed that our participation is being used to give credibility to ideas and agendas that we see as dangerously misguided. We stand by what each of us said when we were interviewed. But we have grave disagreements with some of the film’s content and feel the need to make this public statement to avoid the appearance that our presence in the film constitutes any kind of endorsement.”
Update, April 13: Two more progressives who make appearances in "Thrive" have added their names to the letter denouncing the film: Amy Goodman, the host of public radio's "Democracy Now," and John Perkins, author of "Confessions of an Economic Hit Man."
Talking about Thrive last week, Robbins enumerated a long list of complaints. Much of his critique is centered on the film’s politics.
“Foster says he’s not advancing a political agenda,” Robbins says, “but his sources certainly are.”
Robbins is particularly galled by the presence of G. Edward Griffin and David Icke—both of whom who are featured prominently in the film and on the Gambles’ elaborate website (thrivemovement.com). Griffin is a prominent member of the ultra-right-wing John Birch Society, while Icke has one-upped the world’s most ambitious conspiracy theorists with his notion that the world’s secret rulers are actually descended from a hybrid species of evil half-human “Reptilians.” (Ironically—or hypocritically—neither of these facts is revealed in Thrive.)
Both Griffin and Icke have long defended themselves against charges of anti-Semitism with needle-threading arguments pointing out that while the enemy is decidedly Zionist, it is only coincidentally Jewish. Similarly, although his movie echoes Joseph Goebbels’ The Eternal Jew, Gamble insists in Thrivethat the conspiracy he describes “is not a Jewish agenda.”
But Robbins isn't buying that. He says that in private correspondence, he learned that his friend was being influenced by the ideas of Eustace Mullins, whom he calls “the most anti-Semitic public figure in U.S. history.”
Foster Gamble did not respond to an email request for an interview to respond, but there is certainly evidence in Thrivethat Mullins’ views influenced him. One of the central features of the film is the supposed revelation that the Federal Reserve Bank is a criminal enterprise; Mullins is the man who gave birth to that theory, in his 1952 book The Secret of the Federal Reserve.
The following year, Mullins published his most notorious tract, "Adolf Hitler: An Appreciation," which praises the Fuhrer for his crusade against the “Jewish International bankers” who were attempting to take over the world. In subsequent books, Mullins argued that the Holocaust never happened and that the Jewish race is inherently “parasitic.” Incredibly, Mullins also insisted until his death that he was not an anti-Semite.
Robbins does not in any way accuse Gamble of bigotry—but rather of dangerous naievete. “Foster isn’t anti-Semitic,” Robbins says, “but he is listening deeply to and promulgating the ideas of Eustace Mullins.”
Privilege and Responsibility
In issuing their statement distancing themselves from Thrive, Robbins and his colleagues point out that they are “dismayed” that the Gambles refused to let them know what the film was about until the time of its public release. In interviews with the Weeklyseveral weeks ago, Paul Hawken and Elisabet Sahtouris both said Foster Gamble misrepresented the film when he asked them to participate.
Robbins says it’s clear that Gamble used him and the others to draw people to Thrive. He is distressed that the film weaves progressive ideas into its paranoid, radical libertarian narrative. But he stops short of accusing Gamble of deliberately deceiving his audience.
“Foster is extremely naïve about the political consequences of his film,” Robbins concludes.
But how could someone be so naïve? Robbins says he is in a unique position to be able to answer that question.
“The bubble of entitlement that he has lived in is almost impossible to understand if you haven’t lived in it.”
As it happens, John Robbins and Foster Gamble have lived uncannily parallel lives. Robbins was born heir to the Baskin-Robbins ice cream fortune, and Gamble was born heir to the Proctor & Gamble cosmetics fortune. Both men rejected the destinies their families had chosen for them, and both moved to Santa Cruz.
Although the men would later become friends, a couple of crucial decisions set them on very different paths. In the early 1980s, Robbins decided to disinherit himself from his family’s wealth. After his Diet for a New America, which wedded personal and environmental health, was nominated for a Pulitzer Prize, he went on to live a very public life, writing books and heading organizations advocating for the environment and a plant-based diet. His newest book, No Happy Cows: Dispatches from the Frontlines of the Food Revolution, was published April 1.
Gamble also walked away from his family’s business, but chose to accept his inheritance—and use it to go on the personal quest which led him to the series of extraordinary conclusions documented in Thrive.
Robbins points what he sees as a crucial error in Thrive, which he believe is the result of a blind spot caused by Gamble’s “bubble.”
“Foster wants us to follow the money, and leads us to a group of obscenely wealthy families using their extravagant wealth for ill,” he says. “But nowhere in his film does he mention the Koch brothers.”
Robbins points out that David and Charles Koch, the multi-billionaire heirs of the second-largest privately held company in the nation, who are using their vast wealth to bankroll the radical right, espouse the same libertarian agenda promoted by Thrive. (He also points out that their father, Fred C. Koch, was one of the founding members of the John Birch Society.)
Like many progressives, Robbins sees the Koch brothers as two of the most dangerous men in American politics.
“If you want to follow the money, it leads to the Koch brothers,” he says, “If Foster had gone after them. I’d be right there with him.”
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Hollywood Tomfortas Mon, Apr 30, 2012 - 9:21 pm
More due diligence!
Here is Eustace Mullins’ appreciation for Hitler published in the October 1952 issue of the “National Renaissance Bulletin” an anti-Communist publication printed monthly from 1950 to 1953.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/24860672/Adolf-Hitler-an-Appreciation-by-Eustace-Mullins
HITLER: AN APPRECIATION by Eustace Mullins
Eventually America must admit her debt to Adolf Hitler for it was Hitler who first called upon all Aryan people to unite and challenge Jewish economic and political power. It was Hitler who first enunciated the doctrine of national self-determination and led the armies of Christian Europe in a great crusade against the godless Jews of the Kremlin. Hitler, like Christ before him, was crucified on a Cross of Gold through the duplicity of his own Christian people. America will never forget that the Jewish International bankers, together with Franklin D. Roosevelt, their tool, led us into World War II. Why? Because Hitler drove the economic leeches of the Rothschild and Warburg families out of Germany.
The Jewish “refugees” poured into America and enlisted us as cannon fodder and errand boys in Europe. Hitler warned America in 1945, that we would have to face the ultimate battle against the Jewish Frankenstein Monster of Communism alone. America had helped created the monster, now it would destroy her. It is no longer a question of defending America’s independence. It is a question of defending the remainder of Western Civilization from the colored hordes of Asia and Africa led by Jewish Communism toward the ultimate goal of Jewish World Domination. The Jew plays for high stakes; world domination or the extermination of their race.
America is the last obstacle in the path of Jewish conquest. Either the Aryan or the Jew must yield in the world struggle. The goal of our National Renaissance movement becomes clearer.
Kyle Thiermann Tue, May 01, 2012 - 10:37 pm
I am 22 and you should know all of my friends and I have stopped reading your newspaper since you launched your smear campaign against Thrive. Our generation has little interest in your pointless drama. If you don’t like the solutions Thrive offers, come up with some better ones yourself.
Hollywood Tomfortas Thu, May 03, 2012 - 8:52 am
Kyle,
You are correct when you invoke the “generation gap” here. You see, aging Baby Boomer Foster Gamble pitched his movie at your generation in a vain and vainglorious crusade to recapture his own lost youth as well as to purge his troubled conscience of the lifelong guilt he carries because he feels that his Procter & Gamble inheritance was and is unearned and undeserved. (Think bulimia of the soul.)
Because I am the exact same age as Foster, I can even pinpoint the year he wishes to return to. That year is 1956 when he and I were both 8 years old. Hence the timeliness of my parody of the Mickey Mouse Club Alma Mater Song which was a nostalgic farewell to the first television season of the Mousketeers (1955-1956).
A serious commenter here named Bruce recently judged my parody as an infantile attack on THRIVE. Well, his projection is not far off, but I would not judge mine or Foster’s attitude as infantile. No, it is simply childish. And not even pubescent yet. Simply childish and that is why John Robbins deemed Foster’s naivete as being so dangerous.
As an elder to your generation now, I can only offer you the meager solace that mine and Foster’s generation—- we being the Pioneers of Narcissism—- bequeathed that self-absorption to you young folks as the societal status quo.
The only hope I can see for you is to follow the advice that my generation was given when we were all your age, ca. 1970. That is:
Never trust anyone over 30.
And now a bit of personal advice since I’m old enough to be your grandfather:
Follow your dick.
Laszlo Szantor Sat, May 05, 2012 - 11:06 am
Fly now/pay later philosophy isn’t working so well any more. It is no use to be knowledgeable theorizing without end. Our greed is used against us by those who are smart to exploit. Want to change your world? Don’t take the bait and think for yourselves.
Hollywood Tomfortas Sat, May 05, 2012 - 11:07 am
You can read the latest jousting match between Muertos (The Dead Ones) and Foster Gamble here:
http://thrivedebunked.wordpress.com/2012/05/05/foster-gamble-responds-thrive-and-its-solutions-are-evidently-only-for-conspiracy-theorists/
Looks like Eustace Mullins is the Kryptonite for Superman Foster.
Rich Fri, May 25, 2012 - 7:20 am
Follow the money. Is that blaming? While we live simple lives those who control money and resources are hard at work gaining control over our lives. Slowly over the years we have lost freedoms and political power. Something is wrong and needs our attention. Taking ” personal responsibility ” is nice but we don’t live in vacuum. In the real world change happens over which we have no control, no voice and no vote.
But watch out. Our food, water, education, environment are being taken further and further away form our control.
Banks are at the base of these control systems. It just makes sense.
Hollywood Tomfortas Sun, May 27, 2012 - 11:29 am
The indefatigable anti-Fascist investigative reporter Dave Emory just wrote this article about THRIVE:
“Thrive”: Counter-Culture Fascism in Cinema
The advance of fascism features a burgeoning array of media and organizational phenomena that direct people of more “progressive”–even “hip” orientation in the direction of bigotry and rightwing totalitarianism.
http://spitfirelist.com/news/thrive-counter-culture-fascism-in-cinema
Dave quotes an excerpt from Eric Johnson’s new article in the San Jose Metroactive. (It’s mostly a re-hash of Eric’s Santa Cruz Weekly article, but he does expand on it. However, no comments are allowed.)
http://www.metroactive.com/features/thrive-cult-film.html
I copy below Dave Emory’s comments about THRIVE
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The advance of fascism features a burgeoning array of media and organizational phenomena that direct people of more “progressive”– even “hip” orientation in the direction of bigotry and rightwing totalitarianism.
In particular, anti-Semitism–denying that it is anti-Semitic–has become something of the “flavor de jeur” for much of the so-called progressive sector. The clouding of minds with mysticism has accelerated this trend, particularly among the young.
A recent issue of the San Jose Metro – a free weekly paper in the Southern Bay Area –featured an incisive analysis by Eric Johnson. This important article dissected the fundamentals of a popular cult film entitled Thrive.
The brainchild of Proctor & Gamble fortune heir Foster Gamble, the film fuses New Age mysticism and cult “free energy” mythology with Old Age anti-Semitic ideology pinning the world’s troubles on the Rothschilds and Jewish control of the financial industry. (Gamble himself holds forth on various subjects in the film itself.)
In addition to Gamble himself, “Thrive” presents the fascist ideology of G. Edward Griffin, a prominent John Birch Society theoretician. (The origins of the John Birch Society are detailed in AFA #11.) In addition to his doctrinaire racism, demonizing the likes of Martin Luther King, Griffin tags the Federal Reserve System as a manifestation of the “Zionist” financial cabal.
The most outlandish of the fascisti whose “thinking” is featured in the film is David Icke. A former soccer player, Icke has reinvented himself as a political guru, disseminating the view that the world’s power structure is controlled by “reptilian shape-shifters” who pose as humans, eat young children and, somehow, are part and parcel to the international financial conspiracy advanced by Griffin, Gamble and company.
Another of the old-line fascists whose ideology is contained in the film is Eustace Mullins, although his influence is upon Gamble’s theoretical outlook, rather than in “Thrive” itself. An unabashed admirer of Adolf Hitler, Mullins is among the seminal fascist ideologues to tab the Fed as an outcropping of the “international Jewish banking conspiracy.”
Not surprisingly Icke, Mullins and Griffin have been extolled by the so-called “Truthers.” Both have also been featured on the program of former Fox pundit Glenn Beck.
In addition to the New Age mysticism, the film’s cache among “progressives” is strengthened by the inclusion of the likes of Deepak Chopra, Amy Goodman and environmentalist (and Baskin & Robbins heir) John Robbins.
This, in combination with the dumbing-down of America, has fueled the popularity of “Thrive.”
Not surprisingly, the film has garnered a considerable following among the “Occupy” movement, according to author Johnson.
“Thrive” appears to be among the most successful manifestations to date of counter-culture fascism, adding something of a bohemian flavor to the old adage that anti-Semitism is “the socialism of fools.”
(Author Peter Levenda, among others, has chronicled the overlap of alternative religions such as Satanism with fascist and Nazi elements in his book Unholy Alliance. The alternative religious connection/New Age phenomenon is central to the success of works like “Thrive.”)
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Yubian Tue, Jul 24, 2012 - 9:06 am
It’s clear that the author of this post doe not understand what the definition of fascism is. How can THRIVE been pushing fascism when they are most definitely calling for a STATELESS society??? The two are mututally exclusive. Get a clue.
Yubian Tue, Jul 24, 2012 - 9:00 am
WHO is the author of this piece? I’d take a bet they are active in Democorp party politics.
Everytime a popular film or book which espouses Voluntaryism or questions the legitimay of the ruling class comes out, some anyonymous author publishes a screed against it by linking it to anti-semitism and a conspiracy agenda.
Well, if you don’t believe in grand conspiracies, dear author, then you *really* do not understand how and why the Federal Reserve Bank was created and how government-charted megacorporations are part of the larger fascist agenda.
Learn what freedom is actually all about: yubia.blog.com
Jennifer Williams Thu, Aug 23, 2012 - 4:37 pm
WOW…it is working! we are fighting among one another
so that we will be blinded by the truth! HOW CONVENIENT! We are losing the plane and ourselves and all we can do is blame our pity little selves and continue to be zombies and believe that the powers that be care?
Ken Mon, Oct 08, 2012 - 8:18 pm
Sooner or later I figured someone, would try
to kill the messenger.
I know Foster’s intention comes from his caring heart. He is a very compassionate person, and really wants to do something meaningful with his life.
It is not his fault many of the Bankers that
are part of a corrupt banking system are Jewish.
Going back to the Rothchilds. This doesn’t
make all Jews bad. I know Foster has never spoken
against Jews per se. Only against the elite insiders that take advantage of the system they set up.
Foster tries to see the positive in people
and the worst that could be said of him is
he may be naive, but he knows he doesn’t have
all the answers and is trying to ask the right questions so that we all can find out and check things for ourselves.
I’m sure he ruffled some vary powerful feathers.
And we need to give him credit for standing against the powers at be. With the vaguely worded laws that have trashed the constitution, it is harder than ever to audit what those is power are doing.
Money talks and I wouldn’t put it past them
to pay some big bucks to silence Foster and his work.
In these times very few could resist a wad of money to sell someone out.
I wouldn’t be so nit-picky as to find a few
flaws on a basically good message of hope.
how to get rid of mice Sun, Dec 23, 2012 - 4:30 am
Thrive is a great documentary and I’ve watch it almost four times now.Great ideas.